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>> year with the gb newsroom. i'm polly middlehurst in a moment. headliners. but first let's bring you the very latest

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news headlines. and there are concerns tonight that content on some social media accounts stoked unrest across the uk following the stabbing of three little girls in southport on monday. online accounts were reportedly urging people to wear masks and meet up in town to deliberately cause unrest. well, earlier on, the prime minister issued a warning to social media companies after misinformation spread online about the identity of the attack suspect as well, sir keir starmer announced he's forming a violent disorder unit, giving officers more power to tackle the mobs. >> the community of southport had to suffer twice. a gang of thugs got on trains and buses, went to a community that is not their own. a community grieving their own. a community grieving the most horrific tragedy. >> prime minister earlier on, well, a teenager charged over the mass stabbing in southport was named today as axel rudolph cubana. three children, seven

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year old elsie dot stancombe alice aguirre , who was nine alice aguirre, who was nine years old, and six year old b.b. years old, and six year old bb. king were all killed during the attack. but two other girls injured in the same stabbing spree have now left hospital . in spree have now left hospital. in other news today, two whistleblowers have criticised the for bbc how it handled an inquiry internally into one of their former newsreaders, huw edwards. they're accusing the broadcaster of sweeping allegations under the carpet, including claims the former newsreader sent suggestive messages alongside a picture of his hotel suite in windsor, whilst he was at prince philip's funeral. their comments, first published in the sun newspaper, come after the 62 year old admitted this week to accessing indecent images of children following his guilty plea at westminster magistrates court. it's emerged the bbc had known since last november that huw edwards had been arrested. well, today the director general, tim davie, said the corporation

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chose not to sack him in case he wasn't charged . more than 20 wasn't charged. more than 20 people were released from prison today in the biggest prisoner swap between russia and the west since the cold war. among them are us reporter evan gershkovich and vladimir kara—murza. that's and vladimir kara—murza. that's a british russian citizen . in a british russian citizen. in return, at least eight russian nationals were expected to be returned to russia tonight, including several with suspected ties to russian intelligence . ties to russian intelligence. and just lastly, in sport, andy murray's tennis career has come to an end with defeat in the quarter finals of the olympics alongside dan evans. in the men's doubles, murray bows out from the sport as a double olympic champion. three time grand slam winner and former world number one. well, those are the latest gb news headlines for now. and that's it from me @gbnews. it's been wonderful. thank you. next up, headliners for the very latest gb news

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direct to your smartphone , sign direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> and thank you polly , for the >> and thank you polly, for the final time. and hello and welcome to headliners. your nightly run through the next day's newspapers with three comedians. i'm leo carson. tonight i'm joined by the magnificent specimens of steve allen and kerry marx. how are you both doing? >> oh, right. i forgot i was here, actually, i thought i was at home then. >> yeah, i saw you doing some last minute swatting. that's good. >> let's do it. >> yeah, well, as long as you don't act like you're at home when you think you're alone. >> this is exactly how i sit. when i'm at home. yes. can we say what you're wearing on the lower half? careful. it doesn't. it doesn't make the top half truth. that's colours aren't matching the cast. that's why i've never been called a specimen before. like the thing

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you do in jars. yeah. that's right. oh, no. >> agar plate. i've always seen you as a macrobiotic growth. >> do you know what? not the first time someone said that about me as well today. >> okay, let's have a look at tomorrow's front pages. the daily mail leads with, say goodbye to your doctor's appointment. the times has russia in biggest prisoner exchange since the cold war . the exchange since the cold war. the guardian has police urged to step up action amid plans for 19 more far right there words protests. the telegraph has . protests. the telegraph has. starmer blames riots on far right plotters. the metro has teenage killer unmasked. it's them saying killer. i wouldn't dare prejudice a trial like that. and finally, the daily star has, we'll say, noah's ark to the moon. and those were front pages . and we're kicking front pages. and we're kicking off the show with the telegraph. and following the murder of children, keir starmer has pledged to crack down on people angry about children being

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murdered. steve. >> well, the telegraph's headuneis >> well, the telegraph's headline is starmer blames riots on far right plotters. as you say , he's come up with this new say, he's come up with this new violent disorder unit, which i think is also a channel five show, and i will do the voiceover if they're available for it. so here's the big problem with it. some of the steps in isolation, you might like the. this is based upon the presumption that the riots are caused by rent a mobs. now sometimes people online will say the people causing the trouble. they're not the people who want to go to the protest. these are other people who turn up. you can agree with the protest and disagree with the riot. that's definitely something that can happen. and the thing the thing they want to do to control this is get extra policing. we've all said we like the idea of more police. yes, especially in leeds. you know. well, this is what i was going to say. all of this should have been brought in after leeds, after you've just seen police run the other way. it's the perfect time to bring in all of these steps, especially when you know there's the accusation of two tier policing. if you want to fight that accusation, you don't introduce the rules on tier two. you use it on tier one and it

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could have been done. surely these steps could have been taken and then it would have improved the situation. >> yeah, but there are a lot of accusations of two tier policing and you know, the way keir refers to these rioters is so different to how he referred to blm. he took the knee for blm and you know said that those riots were were justified. >> it's very much don't don't park your ideas on double standards really. and it's, we're seeing a lot of this and partly the violence is bad. i'm of that opinion, you know, it's where i stand. i'm. i'm against it. i don't like it because i'm a coward, so i'm out the way of it as soon as it's happening, andifs it as soon as it's happening, and it's horrible in all directions. but, part of the blame here is going on social media. and certainly a lot of misinformation spreads around social media. so they're talking about trying to find ways to kerb social media. good luck with that with tiktok and telling china what they're allowed to put on and put off because because that's not going to happen, and really what's another problem that's happening is we're looking at the reaction of extremists. but in order to stop some of the extremism, you have to deal with the moderate

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views. yeah. and the moderates are feeling ignored. and so the extremists have taken the law into their own hands. but there's also an awful double standard going on. and i will compare this with, with the way the reporting is going on the other big story of concern with israel and gaza is we're seeing so much misinformation coming from the bbc, even where a hospital gets bombed and they blame the wrong side and exaggerate it, and that sends hatred towards the jewish community. and now you've got the government reacting to some hatred on social media correctly. that sends hatred towards the muslim community. and, well, if you've got the mainstream media doing it so dramatically, you're not doing anything about that, then then why are you obviously showing your side so much? >> yeah. and i feel that keir starmer has actually quite cynically, instead of bringing the country together, which you really should have, should have done and provided some solace for the people that are grieving and the people that are angry, that are rightfully angry. instead, he's exploiting this situation to push through you know, his dreams of a surveillance state and these new units to, to crack down on people that he describes as the far right. but we all know there's probably enough far

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right people in the in the uk to fit in a ford capri, really, what this is going to going to be doing is making it illegal to be doing is making it illegal to be right wing or express any right wing things, or vote conservative, or be right wing in any way whatsoever. and me and nick are definitely going to jail. >> yeah, it might be a bit illegal to vote conservative. i'm not quite sure to pass that through. i think that's their dream. is that dream? well, let me let me say an obtuse thing, because this is what i do, starmer also condemned the tiny, mindless minority in society. he's calling a minority a gang of thugs who got on trains and buses.i of thugs who got on trains and buses. i thought you wanted to us increase public transport use. i'm very confused, starmer. >> i thought you liked minorities. and also i think i think you know, this this phrase far right. it's just being used as a dog whistle to describe to describe working class people. it's just suggests the other side of the far wrong. >> yeah. isn't it? if you've got the far right, it's they're against the far wrong. exactly. so it doesn't really work for that. but yeah, i mean look there's a far right but it's, it's become a catchall phrase as to explain everything away. yeah.i to explain everything away. yeah. i feel yeah i'm right. >> well, i feel much more

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threatened by keir starmer at the moment than i do by the far right. moving to on friday's daily mail. carrie, what have they got on the cover? >> i'm okay watching this gruesome mismatch between a woman and a biological male left me. so this is about the boxing that happened today at the olympics, where a biological male, fought against a biological and definite woman, and so what you have here, this isn't a trans woman. this is someone i believe. from what i've been following on, this is someone who's born intersex, designated female at birth. by designated female at birth. by designated female, it means the doctors said overall, go with female. here let's toss a coin. well, of course, the movement for the last few years is saying we've got to get rid of designation. whether you're designated at birth is not who you are. now the same movement is going. she was designated female and also she or he or whatever. >> you know, they, failed gender tests failed eligibility tests and testosterone test. yeah absolutely. >> well, but this olympics has said if your passport passport says female, then you're in. yeah. >> so the so the i did some

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googung >> so the so the i did some googling on this and it goes there's a bit of a rabbit hole when you go. did you fill him out. yeah. yeah but so it hangs on hangs on the question of the tokyo olympics after tokyo olympics. so this khalife actually fought at tokyo olympics. no controversy last yearit olympics. no controversy last year it was the iba that, put a ban in place. the newspaper says, for failing testosterone tests. the iba put a statement out today saying no testosterone tests were carried out, but that separate and recognised tests were. the specifics remain confidential . why? you're not confidential. why? you're not the mi5, confidential. why? you're not the m15, you're a sports bar. yes tell us what you test is. meanwhile, the iba are in charge this time it's the ioc. the ioc said that actually the correct level has been met. what what level has been met. what what level ? they won't say. so you've level? they won't say. so you've got two tests that we don't know what they are. there's some doctor who said that some tests were dna tests were taken and x y chromosomes were present. but that's not actually been proven. but also there's no test saying x is there. so the big question is what do the iba and ioc say about the z and the xy chromosomes. now it's all to do with dsd. yeah, it seems like

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the science is in a muddle, but we can't get away from the fact that woman's been punched in the face and ended her boxing match early because she feared for her life, and she's got a broken hose. >> nose. >> i mean, this is like the olympics is supposed to inspire people. this is just going to inspire, you know, drunk, aggressive, brutal wife beaters. >> it's a bit of a punch in the for face women's rights generally, isn't it? but it's, look, it's going to be unfair. the rules are going to be unfair on some people that you can't possibly have rules that are just fair to everyone. that's the way sport works. and what we're talking about is very, very rare cases like this. yeah. and if you make a rule that's unfair on people in these rare cases, that is unfair. but it's fairer for the overall sport and the people taking part. so how many women we have to live with that? >> how many women with broken noses is, you know, an acceptable amount ? anyway, acceptable amount? anyway, moving on. what's in the front cover of the guardian? >> steve? guardian go with ice sheets ten celsius above normal in an antarctic heatwave. and that's on average some days it's been 28 c. sorry 28 celsius

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above the predicted temperatures down there. why am i not holidaying down there? that's because every day it's still below zero. everyone calm down about how you know how hot it is. but indeed, if you measure the temperature, it's been it's been performing really well. and this actually is well, it's just el nino if you want to know the cause of it. right. >> but you know nothing to do with me, like doing doughnuts in my vie. >> you know what? it could be a bit of that as well. so a couple of things on this, this show is often talked about the results, saying it's had a really hot june and people go, oh, i had a terrible june. it was raining. well, that's because like the average on the globe might not just include your back garden. right. and one of the reasons the average is doing so well. so, you know, it's really high is because the antarctic has been 28 degrees above where it should be. so you could have a really bad june and it's not made the whole planet. the world doesn't revolve around you. >> so we don't really need to worry about antarctica until we either move there or it gets above zero and melts. and then it's a i guess it's a big

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problem. although i think this could be the right time for the world to be flooded, cuz there was a reason. >> of course, they changed it from global warming to climate change because people all thought that. they all thought that means constant heat. but, look, the ice is getting hotter andice look, the ice is getting hotter and ice has one job failing to do it dramatically, and yeah, soon we're going to see, icebergs floating past us. it's going to be great. >> i hate it when they say climate boiling as well. that just bothers me. on a scientific level, boiling simply just means going from liquid to gas. like the air around us has already boiled. yeah, like like, helium down at three kelvin has boiled. stop pretending that boiling is the right word for it. these people are meant to be scientists bringing kelvin into it. i dropped the kelvin. >> that's it for part one. but join us after the for break some good news for house and some news from migrants in

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welcome back to headliners. i should probably clarify earlier

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when i said how many is an acceptable number of women to punch, i thought it was a rhetorical question, but there's been some debate and i should clarify pulling you up on it. it's actually no women. zero women is the acceptable number just for our glaswegian viewers . just for our glaswegian viewers. we've got the times now, and keir starmer has listened to people's concerns about border controls and decided to weaken them . carrie. them. carrie. >> yes, well, the tories were going to increase the income threshold, which has increased from £18,600 to 29,000. this income, this is for migrants for and migrants, spouses. to come to the country, and so, so the next level was about to happen, going up to 38,700. but they've decided they're saying pause. but i think they mean stop. and they're saying it's, to create a balance, the balance of respect for family life, which is all very nice, but i think it's what we're talking about a moment ago is that there's always some unfairness. you have to choose what is fair and what is not. and of course, it's unfair. it'd

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be nice just to open the borders and say, everyone come in, but there's got to be a stopping point. and with. but it also wouldn't be nice. it seems like a bit of a kick in the face to all the people who are asking for something to be done about the migration, so i can't see this being very popular because i don't think it's a good optic right now, especially whilst also agreeing to allow, 100,000. i think it's that was that the number migrants coming to the country every year as well, at 1.2 million. >> so we're in a period of just unbelievably high, migration. that might be illegal migration, but the gross migration figures are 1.2 million and net migration is around 600, 700,000. but that's just what we know about . there's probably know about. there's probably another like people estimate that there's another, possibly more than 10 million people living here that we don't know about, you know, and that's based on things like number of mobile phone contracts and, you know, sewage usage and stuff like that. >> oh, some of that is me. i do have three phones and i do a lot of toilets. so you should explain that if you could stop being a drug dealer on the time,

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on the on the side, live off this money, although actually speaking of money, it is interesting. so the, the rate the cap goes to this, 29,000 and actually googled earlier the median uk salary is 29,000. so actually any of these dependents who come to the country will they won't lower the average wage. right? all of them will be being paid more. that will bang on the median. and all of the other things have been left in place. so just to give a bit of credit where it's due, like the increase in the amount for people who are actually moving here to work rather than the spouses and dependents, that is increasing. all the rest of it stayed in. it's just this one thing that's been delayed or stopped and i guess, you know, people who go through the proper processes are probably much less likely to be, a problem, to be honest. >> but we've still got under laboun >> but we've still got under labour, we've got a continuation of the pretty ridiculously high levels of small boat crossings, which, you know, the number. so far this year has reached 16,004, 457, which is actually up on the record for previous

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arrivals in the seven months to july. >> yeah. you've got to give him, again, slight leeway on the fact that labour took power just again, slight leeway on the fact that labour took powerjust as that labour took power just as the weather's been cracking and it's one of the factors, isn't it? one of the factors that seems, you know, people wait until the weather is easier to cross so they pick the wrong time to. i mean, they didn't pick when the government was that should be hard for them. >> it means it's really hard to get on a british beach at that time. you know, everyone, everyone in the country heads to the beaches when it's good weather. >> but can we do something about the illegal immigration? because, you know, the government, every government seems to say, oh, there's just nothing we can do. we just have to let all these young men come, come, come up, come up the beaches. >> 100,000 i was referring to is that that's with the illegal. >> oh, right. yeah, yeah. >> oh, right. yeah, yeah. >> that's the deal being made with europe. right. so we'll accept 100,000. but then you add this, there's surely a second, but there's surely a security risk with you know, these these are people who who are coming often undocumented. >> we don't know what their history is. if they've got criminal history, we don't know what risk they are to the uk.

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and i think, you know, right now people don't want any risk. they are doing border force uk coming soon to channel five. >> i'm available for the voiceover. the love of got to get work somewhere and i'm not a drug dealer. >> moving on. we've got the daily meal now and after months of kids gloves, policing of palestine, protests, the police finally beat up some british protesters. it's amazing what they can do when there's no need to worry about community cohesion. carry >> oh, it's me again, isn't it? i'm back in, so this is the, we've got a lot of punching going on today, haven't we all? this is the theme of the show, there was the video of a policeman punching a protester. i saw the video myself, and i'm always very cautious about judging anything from a video clip, because we never know what really happened before. but it does seem to start at a point where nothing is happening, where nothing is happening, where a man is just stood in the crowd and a policeman goes right up to him and grabs him. and whilst he's not fighting back at all, as far as we're seeing in the video, there's a bit of, well, a fair bit of punching in the head and kneeing and so on going on by the cops, who then

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jump going on by the cops, who then jump on him, which i think once again, we're looking at that, this double standards being flown all over the place here isn't there with one type of protest as to another. yeah. so certainly doesn't look good. i think we wait for a better explanation, but at this point there needs to be a police explanation for what happened. >> and i think, yeah, yeah, there are lots of arrests and then d arrests, which you know, seem to be based on, on nothing except sending a signal to people that, you know, we can we can do this to, you know, make, make you scared. >> and they've also got, you know, a snatch squad that goes into the protest and grabs what it's they've got women, they've got female police officers now. so they form a snatch. so okay, i apologise, >> be careful . the i mean i apologise, >> be careful. the i mean on this the last time we talked about these kind of topics on another show, i was saying like, two things can be wrong at the same time. like murder is wrong. setting fire to a building. that's nothing to do with the murder is wrong. three things can now be wrong. yeah, beating up people who are at a protest or a riot or whatever. this is not the right move. so you don't have to pick a side on this. it

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is clearly wrong. again, unless we find some extra footage that shows us something else happened. but until that point, we can condemn seeing some coppers beat someone up. >> yeah, i mean, it's part of the problem that these protesters, i mean, from the from the footage that i saw, they were overwhelmingly middle aged and they looked like pretty law abiding people. i saw a 73 year old woman being arrested. she said she had a pacemaker. she said she had a pacemaker. she didn't really look like your classic, you know, football hoougan classic, you know, football hooligan that we've been warned about. and is the problem that, you know , these people are you know, these people are actually peaceable, whereas if the police waded into maybe the anti—israel marches, they'd soon be overpowered by by angry people. >> they're being given a lot of leeway to do whatever they like, shout whatever they like, carry, there's all kinds of signs and flags and so on. and it's pretty certain if the police waded in, we would see similar. and we have done in places there have been, violence and so on, here we told the police there was a number of dozens of police got injured, wheelie bins set on fire, which i think wheelie bins

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are probably the least of the problem here. you know, i'll let a wheelie bin or two go. i think it was not bin day, it was not bin day. yes. i was taught a lesson. exactly. the only way to get rid of it all, it's recycling on wednesdays. 1 think people did bring weapons along and that's, you know, it's not nice that some people are going there to try and turn, turn this into a riot, but at the same time, unless that guy who was beaten was a very good actor, it really looked like he was innocent at the time, and the police were being unnecessarily aggressive. >> yeah, well, we should find out over the coming days. moving on. we've got the independent now, and mortgages might be getting a bit cheaper. maybe at some point in the future. steve. yeah. >> so bank of england cuts interest rates for the first time in more than four years. can i just say it's so nice to have a boring story about interest rather than some riots and punching and all this stuff, so the base rate has been cut to 5%, down from 5.25%. let's have a party just yet, but at least a step in the right direction. it

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says homeowners should not expect borrowing costs to come down rapidly. yeah, it's the classic thing of it goes up like a rocket, down like a feather, mr bailey, your head of the bank of england, said, that it's because of inflationary pressures. had eased enough. what does this include ? the what does this include? the pubuc what does this include? the public sector pay rises. turns out. yes. so the tories were saying, well, what about these pay saying, well, what about these pay rises? apparently that's already been factored in. so let's hope that this means we will see see inflation staying nice and low. we'll see the interest rates come down. you don't have to rush. just do it before i need to come out of my fixed term mortgage. 1 took five years fixed. so you've got a couple more years left until you do this because it's over a grand that people have to pay a year extra when they just remortgage their mortgage, when they come out the fixed thing, that's like getting a pay cut. so that one is going to sting. obviously, it's bad for people with savings, but they've got savings, so they'll get through. >> yeah, i mean steve's quite optimistic about the public sector pay rises. but they've been they've been huge. the i think doctors got 22% of junior doctors and they're campaigning. they're threatening to go and strike to get 35%, which is, you know, all that money flooding

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into flooding, into spending. that's going to push inflation up. >> yeah, totally. and also, how doesit >> yeah, totally. and also, how does it benefits from all this work for renters . you know, does work for renters. you know, does it stop at the owners of houses. doesit it stop at the owners of houses. does it get passed on? i'm not quite sure how this works because as a renter i would like to know, you know, this is all, it's interesting. that was, because rishi sunak, of course, is probably regretting that he stepped down at the time when he did because this would have made him look, this is all happening because of policies that he's passed, that we're also seeing growth happening. >> he left the country in such a great state. he left. oh, man. there's never been a country left in a better state than britain after rishi sunak. >> he's a bit like the captain of a ship who jumps ship because he's about to hit an iceberg and then sees it sail straight through the iceberg. so, you know, it was an antarctic iceberg. he would love to be taking credit. right now, being in government and taking credit for the, you know, for everything that's happening with the economy, which is looking good. you know, he's left a good legacy, but, i don't know how this is going to work with dropping interest rates with, with and with growth looking

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good with rachel reeves saying there's a big black hole that she's got to sort out through all these other, other cuts and so on, because it's going to be hard to keep that narrative going, whilst we're also showing growth. 1 don't really like the term black hole because she means a hole, right? it's a black hole. it's not sucking in. >> yeah. don't make it racial. >> yeah. don't make it racial. >> yeah, exactly. i didn't even think of it as a racial point of view, but thanks for adding that. i was more going scientific with it. you were worried that there was. i was on physics, financial event horizon, beyond which the money just goes in. >> yes. well let's see it. it looks like it looks that sounds like a labour government to be fair, that 35%, though, is not all at once the if they do get 35%, it's over several years. so it wouldn't impact inflation all at once. >> it should be over 1000 years. >> it should be over 1000 years. >> it should be over 1000 years. >> it took them 20 years to lose it, so maybe 20 years to get it back right. >> sounds like my hair, join us in. that's part two in the bag. join us after the break where we have a win on centre court for the culture wars. jk

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welcome back to headliners the telegraph. now, with the news that anyone paying their licence fee after november 2023 was giving money to a paedophile who'd already been arrested. kerry? >> yeah, this is tim davie, who is, no, he's not the know the story. >> let's not chuck names . >> let's not chuck names. >> let's not chuck names. >> sorry, it's tim davie. thank you for correcting me where i got sued, who's the, director general of the bbc and what he's saying is that it's too late. if we paid him, you're not going to get the money back from huw edwards, this is generally, executives are normally against taking back pay, pensions and bonuses when someone turns out to be a wrong and because they're always worried about where their turns going to come, you know, they're like, no, we need to keep that in place. it's a bit like the bankers bonuses and so on from years ago. the bankers still took these enormous bankers enormous bonuses, despite making loads of

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people broke and losing their pensions and so on. this is the way it is, really, i don't know, i think the truth of this is it's not good that he's receiving £200,000, despite he was already arrested at that point . but it may be was already arrested at that point. but it may be that we need to look at changing the law rather than, going hard on this particular case. i don't know how the law works here, but it doesn't. it seems to me the law protects people with their their monies, their pensions, their bonuses. yeah. >> and he's also very well paid. before that, he was getting like almost half a million pounds a year just from the bbc. >> i mean, that's, that's a separate issue. i don't think the bbc should pay people that much money. yeah other people could do the job, you know, at least as well. and also that money could make tv shows. but on this, you know, i kind of got a little bit of sympathy because apparently the met had passed on the information that he'd been arrested, but on condition that that information couldn't be made public or acted upon, basically. so what do you do? and then there's also the thing we need to remember. there's a big if in this sentence, but if they would have sacked him, that's not the big if. if they would have sacked him when he was arrested for what he's been

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arrested for, and if he were found innocent later, he would have sued the backside of them because you could fire someone for being found guilty. but if you fire them as soon as they're arrested, they might have come back and stung a little bit. >> yeah, but they not put it in a pot somewhere and say, we're holding this until the end of the trial, and then you would have made more sense. yeah. >> and do you think, do you think the way around it, do you think the way around it, do you think the way around it, do you think the licence fee is on its last legs now, given that, you know, so many times in history it's been used to fund paedophiles? i mean, surely people should be given a choice whether they have to pay for paedophiles or not. >> well, look really the bbc are still they will forever suffer from jimmy savile now won't they. because i don't know. >> and all the other ones. yeah. i mean come on. yeah. >> but they are individual cases.1 >> but they are individual cases. i mean there's a lot an example, there was a lot of, there's a huge number of individual cases. yeah. >> the bbc is like a religion in that it funds paedophiles. so you do have to watch out. >> okay. we've got the guardian now reporting on a minor victory in the cancel culture wars, this time involving wimbledon and barclays. steve. yeah.

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>> barclays chief praises wimbledon bosses for resisting calls to drop the bank as a as a sponsor because so many others had, this is the festivals i can't be bothered to think of all the names of the festivals latitude and stuff. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i'm told festival if it's not an indoor toilet, i'm not playing. but they were dropped from the festivals. they weren't dropped from wimbledon. a lot of this is because if you think about who goes to wimbledon, they don't care about the same issues, the issues are. the uk lender faced backlash for providing services to climate polluters and defence firms with alleged links to gaza and war. we cover this on the show. before, when the festivals were on there, it's often the case that barclays, they're not investing directly in these companies themselves. they act on behalf of their clients who wish to invest to make money. that means the word barclays shows up on the paperwork. at some stage, people go, oh, they're investing in these companies? no, they're providing the service of investing for their clients. and that's what they that's what their clients want. also, the comments came off the back of the bank announcing it would hand 1.2 billion to shareholders. that's got to help a little bit as well isn't it? >> yeah. i mean, kyrees the,

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look, they're, they'd be supporting the barclays bank if it was giving money to iran. >> it'sjust it was giving money to iran. >> it's just it's just not convenient for the for the people. and also, they shut it down with music festivals. we've talked about this before. it was just so hypocritical because when you're considering what happenedin when you're considering what happened in israel was at a music festival, you think you'd think supporting music festivals would make a bit of sense? no. >> people, no are really stupid and completely hypocritical. >> you know, the reason why they're all trying to shut down starbucks is only because the starbucks, the company, put out a statement not agreeing with the union that put out a really divisive statement about gaza and said, that's not our policy. and now it's like, right, they haven't said the most extreme things, so we have to shut down starbucks. starbucks got no real connection with israel. they want to shut down mcdonald's, and mcdonald's. why you want to get rid of mcdonald's from israel? you want to make the idf even fitter than they already are? >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> pepsi though, isn't it? because pepsi bought sodastream. yeah. and that's, that's that's the link. and sodastream was a company in israel and now what is that in any way? absolutely. >> and at the same time, whilst

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they're trying to stop starbucks and, and whatever little companies comparatively at the same time, google has just bought wiz from, from a start up company for 23 billion. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and dwarfs everything. every cup of coffee they've stopped. >> and some in israel, some of the artists were definitely virtue signalling. so the comedian grace campbell, she's the daughter of alastair campbell, and she pulled out of latitude in protest, you know, at possible or what she calls atrocities in the middle east. it's like, what is she going to is you're going to pull out of christmas, going for home christmas, going for home christmas dinner as well. it's absolutely ridiculous. and we're moving on. we've got the telegraph now with a controversial play at the edinburgh fringe taking shots at jk rowling. kiri >> yeah, i'm not sure what it is taking shots. so the writer here is saying it's a balanced show. but of course without seeing it ourselves, you know, we'll decide what's balanced i don't know. yes exactly, this reads like an advert for a play that's generating deliberate controversy for a long time now, if you go out to edinburgh, there's a hell of a lot of shows

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that reference, the same. sorry j.k. rowling's and, what's her name? harry potter. that's that idiot name. you know his name? his name? i'm obviously not read it. is it is it a guy? yeah most of it's made up, so that's fine. but, you know, in edinburgh there's always like a harry potter the musical, harry potter, the show. harry potter, the story about a shoe. whatever it is, there's loads of it. so this is one that's about the rolling story. apparently and it's called terf. trans exclusionary, radical feminist, and, and it's a show in edinburgh . i mean, i mean, edinburgh. 1 mean, i mean, they're not gonna get banned . they're not gonna get banned. gets banned in edinburgh. yeah. jerry sadowitz penis in it . jerry sadowitz penis in it. that's otherwise it doesn't happen. >> yeah. it's nice to hear that. it's nice to hear that they've got the theatre was mostly empty. it's good to hear other people suffering. >> but mostly empty with 60 people in. >> yeah. kidding me. that would be a sell—out night. i'd love 60 people. last year. >> moving on. we've got the daily meal and apparently 20% of teenagers display symptoms of smartphone addiction. and the

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other 80% hide it well. >> steve. yeah >> steve. yeah >> nearly 1 in 5 teenagers display symptoms of smartphone addiction. seems about right. that number. this is research by king's college london, finds that nearly 1 in 5 teenagers between the ages of 16 and 18 suffer from these. these issues . suffer from these. these issues. so being on whatsapp and gaming doesn't really move the dial much. being on social media leads to depression and anxiety, and that makes a lot of sense because have you seen the world, especially through the twitter lens? compare this to previous studies that have looked at screen time. that just messes up your sleep. so there's all the actual signs in it. but if you add that together, my advice would be try not using your phone. you know , this, personal phone. you know, this, personal responsibility to stop doing a thing you think is bad for you because you enjoy doing it. maybe do it less because it's ruining your sleep, your mental health, all of these things, rather than make it seem like an ailment. oh, i'm addicted. do you really? is there a patch? have you sold your body for a sim card update? no, this is not an actual addiction. >> check out ayn rand over here. no. do you not? >> i just think there are people

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chemically addicted to stuff. yeah. shouldn't be on the same category as, like, oh, i just need to check my phone. >> you don't. >> you don't. >> but then checking a phone is easier than going and buying crack. >> i've found in my experience again, you're at the wrong dealer, leo. you should. i mean, the number. >> there's also cyberbullying as well. kerry, do you think we need to encourage kids to do more real life bullying? >> yeah, definitely. that would stop it. get back to the reality. you know, bring tradition back. this is largely about kids, isn't it? and being affected. and, and we're always hearing, i understandably to a point how everything affects children the same way here with p*rnography makes children. it makes teenagers feel inadequate , makes teenagers feel inadequate, which it should, because they are inadequate. >> well, as huw edwards sending them ratings back, well, exactly. >> just stop them watching the olympics. that also makes people feel inadequate. i don't like that happening, but you know, jonathan haidt, the social psychologist, is on the he's trying to get a new program going or stopping phones in schools. and, and it seems very sensible. it is it's not just addiction, but of course, there's a horrible side of humanity that if your brain's not developed enough, can, can do a fair bit of damage. you

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know, you know, what happens on the internet is you read the, i don't know that jerry seinfeld is really a tomato. and someone goes, oh, my god, i knew he was a tomato. and it launches into this craziness really fast, and we're seeing misinformation spread really fast. so maybe what we should do actually, i think, is perhaps teach children a bit more about how to read social media and to what take seriously and what not, and how to look at experts and to how understand your information. so yeah, how to learn how to use it. it's a reality of our age andifs it. it's a reality of our age and it's not going away sensible advice. >> we've got the ai now and there's been a major prisoner swap between russia and the west. does this mean hostilities are thawing? kerry, no. >> it means there's some useful people on each side that everyone wanted back. and i doubt it means very much more than this, so yes, russia has released a load of prisoners. unfortunately, the west has had to give some of theirs back as well, and it's all been coordinated by turkey. it's not the real reality of this is not what i thought it was going to be, which was like a meeting on a bridge with flood lights and,

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you know, people being sent over and guns everywhere, and, you know, someone dressed as a woman with, with a spy saying, hey, if we can beat them at find the lady that was from some spy book somewhere. but it's not that. it's a prisoner swap, which is very nice. i think we're getting a few people back, and we're giving away some very dangerous people. >> yeah, and it's the largest. >> yeah, and it's the largest. >> that's what happens with the prisoner swap. >> the largest swap since the cold war. and there are talks of, peace talks between, ukraine and russia as well. >> yeah. well, i mean, look, i'd be in favour of that, but i do think a lot of this was they've already waited their hand, like when the journalist evan gershevitch recently was found guilty. like possibly could have got 25 years. and what was it, like 24.5 or something? it looked like they were giving sentences so big to really wait, how important it would be to get them back, right? i just think that we've we've been slightly played, but then hopefully we'd do the same. well also also the odd death of alexei navalny that seems to have been timed, or at least that happened.

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>> putin, of course, had nothing to do with it. so he says, which means he almost certainly did. but that's been timed to there's no way they would have let navalny get out. yeah. >> you know, okay. >> you know, okay. >> well just a final function to go with the argentina fighting crime, the of online dating. and are we about to get driverless taxis.

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welcome back to the final section of headliners going through tomorrow's papers with the metro. now with the rise in love scams. steve. yep. >> online dating is more dangerous in the summer. experts warn. and two writer is because people dress less and you lower your standards and the next thing you know you're exclusive. talk for yourself. that's not there. you've got your legs out. now look at you, cheeky devil tart. oh, but this is not what they're talking about. turns out they're talking about. turns out they mean more people are scammed in these romance scams dunng scammed in these romance scams during the summer. i have no idea why they don't really work

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out why. they just like statistically. >> and what is a romance scam? where people, pretend that they're into you to try and get to your money? >> and what i thought was fascinating about this story, the way it's always described in the way it's always described in the press, is some lonely widow, she gets a heartbroken by someone. he pretended that he cared. he said he was in the army, and he just needed some money to get out of that court case. and whilst they lose more money, average eight grand per scammed woman men are more frequently the victim of romance scams. we never really hear about that. we're very hopeful, aren't we? >> very optimistic. >> very optimistic. >> but we only lose three grand because we're tight. but it's also roughly the same as the amount of money you'd lose. having a relationship to a non—reporting it's just going, yeah, this is what happens. >> yeah. because we lose more, but we yeah, we get scammed more often, but we lose less than women. >> women, women women. >> women, women are a women. >> women, women are a lot more spread it around. and there's, one of the experts here saying that you'd think men wouldn't be the ones who get scammed more, but it's like many used to be being scammed for sex. you know, that's part of the deal. we use paying that's part of the deal. we use paying money. >> in fact, a lot of these men

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probably thought it wasn't a scam. this is just a regular relationship. >> by the way, this research by barclays, they're at it again. are they trying to protect people from dating scams? what's funny about this is that halfway through the item telling us about getting scammed and so on, they suddenly throw in an advert for metro sex. dating newsletter called hook—up and the really lewd advert that seems like it's dragging you in. need some tips how to spice things up in the bedroom? sign up to the hook—up will slide into your inbox every week. >> yeah, i know i don't trust you, i don't trust you and any money you want out of me. >> okay, we've got the guardian now, and argentina is going to use crime prediction techniques that have been used in the west for years. but the guardian doesn't like it because it's javier milei doing it. kerry, >> yeah. >> yeah. >> this is the country's far right, president. >> far right. >> far right. >> did they say far right? >> did they say far right? >> yeah. just here. yeah oh my god, that's the thing. >> even if you feel that way, is it necessary? can you not just say, argentina's president and let people, you know, have some opinions? >> he's not an opinion. >> he's not an opinion. >> he's not an opinion. >> he's absolutely not far. right by any standard. he's a

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very liberal person. he's a libertarian. >> but but on the other hand, this does is questionable whether it's a very libertarian idea. but this is, i predicting future crimes, which , they're future crimes, which, they're comparing it to minority report, and it does sound very sci fi, doesn't it, that it'll be able to. now, i think it's about assessing sort of group crime, which is a bit different on an individual level. it would be if it looked at me and said, okay, i've assessed you, kerry, you're going to break the speed limit. and then i'd be like, yep, you got me. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> because it always works. >> because it always works. >> yeah, yeah, >> yeah, yeah, >> i have mixed feelings about all this. i really think that it's all going to happen. no matter how we can slow this, this kind of progress down, if it's progress. but we're all going to have chips in our head at some point. well, yeah. some advantage. and steve, everything we're doing this is going to happen. >> i mean, if i can be used to improve efficiency in other industries, why can't it be used to improve efficiency in crime fighting? yeah. >> and at some point the ai will also start doing the crime. and that will be more efficient. and then we can just be left out of

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it. yeah. that's can just sit around. yeah. >> they can just the criminals can can be laid off as well. >> well criminals are actually using ai. 1 was reading about that. they're using scams to you know, in the old days you could tell not the romance scams, but you could tell that someone was just pretending to be a nigerian prince. you know, the english was terrible. the typos were a nightmare. not thanks to ai that just writes it really well. so now they're really raising their game. thank you. computers >> amazing stuff. we've got the daily mail now and our self—driving taxis finally here. steve yeah. >> oh, they're waiting outside. they'll be charging some money. uber could deploy thousands of driverless chinese vehicles onto britain's roads as part of a strategic partnership with carmaker byd. it doesn't sound like it's getting safer the way they write it. uber could deploy these driverless vehicles, which apparently could help reduce greenhouse gas emissions by killing everyone. it's kind of the skynet solution to humanity's problems. if you just wipe out the humans, all of a sudden the problems are gone. >> but don't you think a chinese artificially intelligent car could drive better than us? >> yes, on that one. i'll agree. >> yes, on that one. i'll agree. >> actually, for yourself again,

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you'll be speeding on the way home. >> my catchphrase? no, they're going to make driving boring. this is the problem. i don't care what it's doing for the environment. you're going to sit there in your car and it's just going to do everything for you. there's going to be no fun. it's going to be so law abiding. it's going to be so law abiding. it's going to be horrible. this is coming from china. one of the largest emitters of co2 and greenhouse gases in the world anyway, who are now trying to save the planet. and it's going to be just like the self—checkouts. it's going to be in your car and it's going to unexpected foot in the pedal area and from this distance, you have to wait for someone who's free to come and sort it out. >> but there's also an impact on our stratospherically high levels of immigration, because, you know, the panjandrums who control everything say, well, you need massive amounts of immigration to do all your jobs. immigration to do all yourjobs. but if we have self—driving cars, i mean, that's that's a whole slew of jobs that we can cut away. there's food deliveries. there's all kinds of things that could be done by by driverless cars. >> yeah. and this will be how driverless cars come in. we won't be owning them. there's no point owning them if they can drive themselves. you just call one to you and you need to get

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in it, which is good because it gets rid of that small talk. yeah, i've been busy, so at least that's gone. >> so i'm. you're right. get us the robot barber. yes, i'm a right wing comedian. >> of course. i haven't been busy. anyway, we've got the we've got the independent now and scientists have developed the device that can make water from the air. well, we've had that in scotland for years. it's called the sky all day, every day. >> kari, this is from, university of science and technology in saudi arabia, the king abdullah university. >> so it's a solar powered water harvester. they're saying it makes water from thin air, but thick air is a lot better for it. i think we'd like to say thin air, just to make it sound that much more magical. it's not enough to say it makes water from the air, which is already pretty good. of course, there's water vapour and air, and it does that. in actual fact, what they've invented is something that israel invented in 2016, but i'm not sure whether it was solar powered or not, but they've already had these machines that make make water from air. >> can't invest in that. >> can't invest in that. >> can't invest in that. >> can't do what? >> can't do what? >> can't do what? >> can't invest in that . >> can't invest in that. >> can't invest in that. >> no. >> no. >> absolutely not. >> absolutely not. >> sponsor a festival again. why do they even bother inventing

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anything really, >> so, yes. and apparently it could be used to irrigate chinese cabbage. >> so this is chinese cabbage. that's what it says. >> it's very specific. >> it's very specific. >> that's what it says here. >> that's what it says here. >> it will make the air very dry, though, won't it? no one thinks about this. so invest in lip balm. that's where the money will be made. you're a bit dry. >> you're going to get lip balm. >> you're going to get lip balm. >> you're going to get lip balm. >> you're gonna get a tickly cough. anyway, the show is nearly over. so let's take another quick look at friday's front pages. the daily mail leads with say goodbye to your doctor's appointment. the times has russia in biggest prisoner exchange since cold war, the guardian leads with police urged to step up action amid plans for 19 more far right protests . the 19 more far right protests. the telegraph has starmer blames riots on far right plotters. the metro has teenage killer unmasked. and finally, the daily star has , we'll say, noah's ark star has, we'll say, noah's ark to the moon. and those were front pages and that's all we have time for. thank you to my guests, steve and kerry and nick dixon will be here tomorrow at 11 pm. with kerry and with paul cox as well. and if you're

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watching at 5 am, then do stay tuned for breakfast. then do check out our comedians doing live shows around the country. i think kerry and steve are both gigging soon, so see that until then, goodbye . then, goodbye. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. good evening . welcome >> hello. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you from the met office. warm and sunny for many of us into tomorrow. some further heavy downpours though across eastern england at first and through this evening we could still see some heavy downpours into friday, though we will see a weather front arrive from the north—west that's going to introduce much fresher air, but before then, still a fairly muqqy but before then, still a fairly muggy night to come. and as i said, it's the risk of thunderstorms first thing this evening across eastern areas of england. but those should die down as the night goes on. so a dry night for many of us, but still feeling quite humid and muggy. as i mentioned, temperatures quite widely in the mid to high teens across england and wales , a little bit fresher

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and wales, a little bit fresher further north, but still fairly mild for the time of year. now into friday morning there'll be some wet weather arriving into the far north and west, spreading into parts of western scotland, bringing cloudier skies, some outbreaks of quite heavy rain. the winds will also start to pick up to southwesterly breeze on friday morning. eastern areas of scotland north eastern england though still a bright start, temperatures already 16 or 17 degrees by 8:00. another warm and sunny start to the day across wales. many areas of england, but it's in the south—east where we've got that risk of some further heavy downpours through friday morning. there won't be quite as widespread as we're expecting through the rest of today, however, and then once they clear away, for many of us it will be a dry and sunny afternoon. however, wet weather is spreading into parts of northern ireland, much of scotland. we could see some quite heavy outbreaks of rain. so through friday afternoon , so through friday afternoon, turning a bit fresher behind this band of rain. but ahead of it, still quite a humid feel. temperatures widely in the mid to high 20s now into saturday.

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that band of rain sinks into southeastern areas, so there's potential for some quite heavy rain across southern areas of england and the southeast, particularly as we head into saturday afternoon. further north, dry across northern england. some showers, though , england. some showers, though, across the north and west into sunday, looks a bit drier across eastern areas of england, but there will be further wet weather spreading in from the south and west and temperatures staying around average. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb

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